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bishopvfx
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Subject: Alpha gun pod
Started on: February 16, 2002 - 9:48:13 PM
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Has it ever been shown in the New Generation series where the alpha would reload it's magazine clip? Lemme know I've been watching it over over again and I don't think they relaod. | |
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Gaourii
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Subject: In the show, NO
Posted on: February 17, 2002 - 2:15:11 AM
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since the gunpod is an energy weapon, it doesnt need rounds, just power. if there is anything in the clip, its probably power cells. if so, they may not be easally removeable for fear they shack loose and the gunpod looses power. they are probably recharged still attached to the gonpod. however when th batteries are completely dead and useless, then they can probably be replaced during maintanence. not an easy task but should be doable by a couple of guys, the right equipment. | |
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Stonecold
Rank: Master Sergeant
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Subject: Even GU-13
Posted on: February 17, 2002 - 4:08:54 AM
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Even older GU-13 Alpha gunpod that use conventionall 30mm ammo, do not use detachable clip, because ammo is stored in clip AND in weapon itself. | |
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pwwalker
Rank: Lt Commander
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Subject: GU-13 is the RRG's invention
Posted on: February 17, 2002 - 8:41:40 AM
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Granted, it's based on the "chain-gun" sound in the simulator in the Sentinels video, but it's otherwise purely speculative.
While I appreciate the enthusiastic ensorsement, Stonecold, you really should be a little more hesitant to quote my site as if it were canonical fact. | |
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Stonecold
Rank: Master Sergeant
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Subject: Well I think
Posted on: February 17, 2002 - 12:42:47 PM
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Your site actually is more cannonical then r.com. Im sorry but it is more logical and scientificaly probable.
Nick `Stonecold` | |
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solidhybrid
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Subject: The Alpha gun pod...
Posted on: February 17, 2002 - 8:30:58 PM
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From what I know of the RPG the old Alpha gun pod was a tri-barrel gatlin that fired 35mm HEAP or HEAT rounds. One clip was loaded in the gun and two more in the legs (i dunno where).
I've never hear of an energy gun pod being used... but maybe I'm out it? =)
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P Thomassen
Rank: Lt Commander
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Subject: RPG vs show
Posted on: February 18, 2002 - 10:32:48 AM
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I've never hear of an energy gun pod being used... but maybe I'm out it?
The RPG gives those stats, but the RPG is often not true to the show. In Mospeada, the Alpha's use an energy cannon.
At no time do we ever see spare clips stashed or being loaded from the legs; those are an RPG invention only.
The show is taken over the RPG stats on this site. | |
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pwwalker
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Subject: RRG more canonical than rt.com?
Posted on: February 18, 2002 - 12:06:38 PM
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Considering that the people who wrote the RRG wrote (under Steve's and Tom's editorial auspices) the information here, that's hard to imagine.
I'm glad you like our site. But that doesn't make it canon (that is, a universially agreed-upon set of texts). It is just our speculative elaboration. We're proud of it and all, but to quote from it as if it were the answer to all questions Robotech is to give us too much credit. | |
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The_Dark
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Subject: I don't recall exactly where...
Posted on: February 20, 2002 - 8:30:04 AM
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but I believe there is a clip from MOSPEADA that definitely shows casings being ejected from an Alpha gunpod, but there are others where they don't. Do we go with the "crappy animators" theory that gave us the VF-1 nose lasers, or the "two gunpods" theory, with a 30/35mm GU-13 and an energy version the same shape and size? | |
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rtsurfer
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Subject: Does the VF-1's gunpod fire both ammunition and energy pulses?
Posted on: February 20, 2002 - 9:21:03 AM
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Seems like I remember a VF-1's gunpod ejecting casings in an early Macross Saga episode, then in "Broken Heart" one is used to light a Zentreadi cigarette and another runs "out of power" during combat. | |
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pwwalker
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Subject: No casings from the Alpha's gun...
Posted on: February 20, 2002 - 9:55:50 AM
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Because in Mospeada, they're 80mm beam cannons. I'm pretty certain you're misremembering, The_Dark.
And one supposes that the hot ejection gasses could easily light a super-sized cigarette - no need for it to fire both beams and ammunition. | |
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So we'll put up with the jokes and the hateful stares for this noise that would curdle stones
"Band! By the right!" and we're heroes again
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pwwalker
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Subject: Power on a chain gun...
Posted on: February 20, 2002 - 9:59:37 AM
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Oh, thought I'd point out that chain guns *do* need power. Unlike a machine pistol or an automatic rifle, chain guns, especially aircraft-sized ones, are electrically powered, not recoil- or gas-operated.
So a gun that ejects casings like the GU-11 could still "run out of power" and not necessarily be a beam cannon. And since the GU-11 is a seperate unit, it probably keeps internal batteries, rather than running on the Valk's power, which means that it could a) run out, or b) the electrical system could short out or be damaged. Either way, even with ammo, it won't fire without power. | |
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So we'll put up with the jokes and the hateful stares for this noise that would curdle stones
"Band! By the right!" and we're heroes again
As the pipes begin to drone...
---Wolf Loescher, Amazing Grace Again | | | |
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Stonecold
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Subject: RRG and R.com
Posted on: February 20, 2002 - 3:50:16 PM
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I dont know why, probably because R.com looks too childish? Its too flashy, shiny like christmas tree... And RRG looks more ..... handsome?
BTW, update it from time to time! | |
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Aspire and search, find and hide in different place.
"One death is a tragedy. Death of a million is a statistics"
Joseph Stalin.
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pwwalker
Rank: Lt Commander
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Subject: Presentation does not equal canon...
Posted on: February 20, 2002 - 6:51:00 PM
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Again, I appreciate the praise, but the way RT.COM chooses to present itself should have no bearing on the *merit* of its content.
There's a world of difference between saying "the RRG says this, and I think it sounds like a reasonable answer", and simply quoting us like we're the gospel truth. We're not. The content here in the infopedia, however it's presented, is the canonical information. | |
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So we'll put up with the jokes and the hateful stares for this noise that would curdle stones
"Band! By the right!" and we're heroes again
As the pipes begin to drone...
---Wolf Loescher, Amazing Grace Again | | | |
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Drew!!!
Rank: Master Sergeant
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Subject: I got a theory
Posted on: February 20, 2002 - 8:56:52 PM
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I think the Oompa Loompa's power the gun and are the ammo! ; P | |
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mobiusone
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Subject: energy vs. lead
Posted on: February 21, 2002 - 4:14:23 PM
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give this some thought: they could be using both ammo and energy. space being a vaccum energy or projectiles would perform equally well. how ever for atmoshpere rich environments like earth the energy weapons may not have as much effect as in space, henceforth the need to increase energy output, and shortening battery life, and the need for traditional ammo during prolonged conflicts/engagements. what do guys think? or they could be using Oompa Loomps's for ammo, which means they have unlimited ammo. oh yeah! | |
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rtsurfer
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Subject: Welcome to RT.com, mobiusone.
Posted on: February 22, 2002 - 1:19:46 AM
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Could someone please take a look at the scene near the end of "Broken Heart" where Rick rescues Minmei and Kyle, and let me know what you think... Aren't those VF-1 gunpods the Zentreadi guards are using? Aren't those same gunpods firing both sustained laser beams and short pulses (which could either be ammunition or laser pulses)? So wouldn't that mean there are either two versions of the VF-1 gunpod (laser or ammo) and/or they have dual delivery capabilities (both laser and ammo). So what's the deal? | |
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rtsurfer
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Subject: "Wedding Bells" and "Dana's Story"...
Posted on: February 23, 2002 - 2:58:41 AM
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Could the gunpods used by the VF-1's during the wedding ceremony be prototypes for the gunpods in "Broken Heart"?
I'd also like to welcome bishopvfx and Drew!!! to RT.com. | |
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Drew!!!
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Subject: New Source of info!
Posted on: February 23, 2002 - 4:33:19 PM
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Since I got back into robotech I started reading my old Novels by mr. Jack McKinney. Their is a refference to this subject in the 18th chapter of Homecoming. "The Battloid traversed its autocannon from one target to the next, fireing depleted transuranic slugs that had awsome, armor-piercing capabilities. The Powered gatling consumed ammunition at an amazing rate, and the Battloid had to transfer fresh boxed belts of rounds to it frequiently from intergral reserve modules built into various parts of it's body." The problem with any Sci-fi story especially one from the 80's is they weren't to particular about continuity. So I am sure their are plenty of other bit of information that can rebut what I just found. Think of it this way to rebut one thing that was said aout a battloid useing his gun pod to light a zentradi Ciggeret. I think that when it came time to story board they thought it would be "Cute" if that happened where if this was based on fact the Zentradi would no longer have a ciggeret and would probably be quite Def. You just have to be able to sort Fact out of the Fiction. Se what was possible and what was put their to look "cute". | |
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Drew!!!
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Subject: P.S.
Posted on: February 23, 2002 - 4:35:33 PM
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I so wish this thing had spelling or gramar check cause I passed english with a D+. Just don't hate cause I'm beautiful. ; ) | |
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You see we are dumb, but we are not so dumb.
It takes great thinking and work to keep from working! <Bill Cosby "Himself"> | | | |
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